Chatroom → Farrow & Ball
The closest Farrow & Ball matches for Sherwin Williams Chatroom (SW 6171), ranked by perceptual color distance.
Finding a Farrow & Ball Equivalent for Chatroom
If you love Sherwin Williams Chatroom but need a Farrow & Ball alternative, you are not alone. This is one of the most common cross-brand paint matching searches, whether you are working with a painter who prefers Farrow & Ball, your local store does not carry Sherwin Williams, or you simply want to compare prices across brands before committing.
Chatroom (SW 6171) is a dark green with earthy sage undertones. An earthy sage green at medium-dark depth. More muted than Rosemary, deeper than Acacia Haze. The kind of green you find in dried herbs and weathered garden sheds. To find a good Farrow & Ball match, we need a color that captures not just the right depth (LRV 18) but also that specific undertone character. That is where Delta E color science comes in.
We calculated the perceptual color distance between Chatroom and every Farrow & Ball color using the CIE2000 Delta E formula, which measures how different two colors look to the human eye. A Delta E under 2 means most people cannot tell the colors apart. Between 2 and 4, you might notice a difference in certain lighting. Above 5, the difference is clearly visible side by side.
The good news: there is a strong Farrow & Ball match for Chatroom. Pigeon Alt (No.47) comes in with a Delta E of 2, which puts it in the "excellent match" range. Pigeon Alt is the closest Farrow & Ball option at LRV 18. Very close match with F&B's signature chalky depth.
Farrow & Ball Matches for Chatroom
Pigeon Alt is the closest Farrow & Ball option at LRV 18. Very close match with F&B's signature chalky depth.
| Chatroom | Pigeon Alt | |
|---|---|---|
| LRV | 18 | 18 |
| Hex | #858D80 | #848C82 |
| Undertone | Earthy Sage | Smoky Green |
| Family | Green | Green |
Undertone Comparison
Chatroom has earthy sage undertones. An earthy sage green at medium-dark depth. More muted than Rosemary, deeper than Acacia Haze. The kind of green you find in dried herbs and weathered garden sheds.
Pigeon Alt has smoky green undertones. A smoky, muted green. Darker than Pigeon, with more green saturation. The color of green wood smoke rising against a gray sky.
These two colors share the same undertone family, which is a good sign for a cross-brand swap. The undertone similarity means they will behave similarly as lighting changes throughout the day, and they should coordinate well with the same accent colors, trim, and furnishings.
How These Colors Behave in Different Lighting
Chatroom in Your Room
In bright light, the sage is earthy and organic. In dim rooms, it reads as a warm dark gray with green undertones. A versatile, natural color.
Pigeon Alt in Your Room
The smoky green is atmospheric. In bright rooms, the green is definite. In dim rooms, a moody dark gray-green.
LRV and Brightness
Chatroom has an LRV of 18, while Pigeon Alt has an LRV of 18. These two colors reflect a very similar amount of light, so you should not notice a significant difference in room brightness when switching between them. The room will feel approximately the same in terms of light and space, which makes this a smoother transition.
Best Rooms for Chatroom
Sherwin Williams recommends Chatroom for: exterior, kitchen, bedroom, accent wall, office. With an LRV of 18, this is a dark color that absorbs more light than it reflects. It makes a bold statement and works beautifully on accent walls, front doors, exterior trim, and features where drama is the goal. In a full room, make sure you have good lighting and bright white trim for contrast.
Pigeon Alt is recommended for: accent wall, kitchen, exterior, office, bedroom. The recommended applications differ slightly between brands, but the color's properties should work in the same rooms regardless of which brand you choose. Trust the LRV and undertone data more than the specific room suggestions, and always test in your actual space.
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Frequently Asked Questions
The closest Farrow & Ball match for Chatroom (SW 6171) is Pigeon Alt (No.47) with a Delta E of 2, which rates as a "excellent match" match. Pigeon Alt is the closest Farrow & Ball option at LRV 18. Very close match with F&B's signature chalky depth. Delta E measures perceptual color distance on a scale where under 2 means nearly identical, 2 to 4 means close with subtle differences, and over 5 means clearly noticeable.
No, they are not identical. Chatroom is a Sherwin Williams color with earthy sage undertones and an LRV of 18. Pigeon Alt is a Farrow & Ball color with smoky green undertones and an LRV of 18. With a Delta E of 2, these are extremely close and most people will not spot the difference on a wall. Paint formulations differ between brands, so even colors with similar values can look slightly different due to pigment concentration, binders, and finish.
With a Delta E of 2, these colors are close enough to use in separate rooms of the same house without a jarring difference. However, avoid painting them on adjacent walls in the same room, as even subtle differences become apparent at a hard edge where two paints meet. For the smoothest result, use one brand consistently within each connected space and reserve the other brand for rooms that are visually separated.
There are several practical reasons to look for a Farrow & Ball equivalent. Price differences between brands can be significant on large projects. Availability matters if your nearest paint store or home center specializes in Farrow & Ball. Some painters have strong preferences for one brand's formula based on coverage, dry time, or workability. And if you are touching up existing Farrow & Ball work, matching within the same brand gives you the best consistency for seamless results.
Match calculations use Delta E (CIE2000) computed from Lab color space conversion. Color data sourced from manufacturer specifications. Last reviewed: March 22, 2026.